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Bush does not equal freedom

Posted by imdstuf on October 30, 2006 - 12:31 AM

If people think George W. Bush is not power hungry, and not liken to a dictator, read the story at http://towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/

If this story does not wake some of you up and sicken you, then there is no amount of help for you. This country is becoming less and less of a free country, and you have Bush to blame for it. Oh,and something even more interesting someone helped me realize:
1) In 1933 "terrorists" destroyed German Reichstag [wikipedia.org]
2) To begin war on terror, the German "Patriot" act [wikipedia.org] was passed getting rid of habeas corpus
3) The German congress passed the Enabling Act [wikipedia.org] to help the president's "war on terror".
4) Hitler consumated the powers granted to him by the Congress through this legal process.

Submitted by I4PUTT on October 30, 2006 - 1:04 PM.

And there is no newspaper coverage???
Fox news doesn't report this????
CNN let's this slide??????
Not one Democrat election hopeful reveals this??
Neal nor Rush nor Sean speak of this???????

Makes perfect sense, the only one who has this is imdstuff!!!!

Creditability is a wonderful thing.


Submitted by imdstuf on October 30, 2006 - 1:30 PM.

I4PUTT are you saying the report is false? Are you saying these reporters would risk possibly going to jail for false reporting? Maybe you need to see the larger picture. It is not reported by most major news because unlike the story that it is a liberal media, in fact, most media is slanted towards the left. Also, just coming out of the weekend, look for this story to pick up momentum. It is amazing that when you see something this bad stare you in the face the only thing you can come up with is to say it is false. I guess it is because there is no way to defend it should you find out it is actually true.


Submitted by I4PUTT on October 30, 2006 - 2:04 PM.

That's exactly what I'm questioning!
Just printing something on the internet doesn't make it factual.


Submitted by I4PUTT on October 30, 2006 - 2:36 PM.

Sen Patrick Leahy,Demon for Vermont hmmmmm
Isn't he involeved with like the 4th or 5th attempt to censure the president for "domestic spying" and wanting the president to be impeached for sending troops to Iraq based on incorrect inteligence. Despite overwhelming support from both houses at that time.


Submitted by imdstuf on October 30, 2006 - 3:23 PM.

Because "at the time" both houses were going by false intelligence provided to them by the administration. All the more reason most Americans and many politicians changed their mind about the war.


Submitted by I4PUTT on October 30, 2006 - 5:59 PM.

I believe the intelligence was gathered by the CIA and matched intelligence by many other countries, not by the White House. The reason most Americans have changed their minds about the war is a biased media. A media that always presents this war in the most negative light, yet over looks many accomplishments made by the troops on the ground. I too agree that progress has come very slowly and at a high price. But to cut & run now is certainly not the answer. Democracy in a country that has never had it and where none of their neighbors want it to be successful may not succeed. If it does, it certainly won't happed in 6 or 7 short years. I'm glad Americans in World Wars 1 & 2 weren't so quickly to give in. I served in an unpopular war where a negative opinion by the masses actually affected how much amunition I received. I hope we never do that to our guys again.


Submitted by g_dog_blog on October 30, 2006 - 10:39 PM.

quack, quack, quack!!!!!!!!!!!!


Submitted by gimpel on October 31, 2006 - 7:08 AM.

Your ignorance of German history is laughable.
Perhaps you could read a book. The used bookstore on Broad Street has some.
Exactly what freedom have you lost under Bush that you had under Clinton?
Power hungry and term limits... not a good match.


Submitted by imdstuf on October 31, 2006 - 10:00 AM.

It is quite simple Gimpel. The president can call anyone a terrorist and take away their rights to a normal US trial. Plus, term limits would not apply if Bush were to use his new power to call martial law. Anyone who protests could be thrown in jail or one of the new detention centers being built by Haliburton. So you question my history Gimpel? I will say Hitler, who did rise to power and become a dictator (you must atleast agree to that) had that Bush does not, a good bit of public support.


Submitted by gimpel on October 31, 2006 - 6:55 PM.

dude, i do feel sorry for you.
Your paranoia is quite excessive. It must be quite frightening to be you.
The president CANNOT call anyone a terrorist and take away their rights. And use his new power to call martial law?
My goodness. We have a system of government, checks and balances, not a dictatorship. Not even in the same ballpark.
Your ignorance of Hitler, and how he came to power, refutes the old saying that "ignorance is bliss." Ignorance must be pure hell for you.
I question your history. I question your present.
You really need to read some books.
You are the very person Bush is acting to protect.


Submitted by g_dog_blog on October 31, 2006 - 10:10 PM.

gimpel, it is almost impossible to break through that kind of mentality. There is an old song with the lyrics, "I hear you knocking, but you can't come in." That is what Liberal Democrats do. imd once told me that he was more informed than me. It is that kind of blind arrogance that plagues our country today. Unfortunately Howard Dean and the Liberal Democratic leaders know this and stir the arrogantly unaware up in frenzy.

I can remember six years ago and again two years ago hearing students at public Middle and High schools talk about President Bush bringing back slavery. I knew that their parents were talking about this. I tried to convince the students that even if it were remotely true that it would be impossible to do. No one in DC would allow this to happen.

You would think after the first four years without even a whisper or hint that this was a part of the Presidents agenda I was floored to see the issue re-surface in the next election.

Six years into the presidency and people cannot name one American in slavery. When you talk to these people it almost wants you to use a 2X4-reality check right between their eyes. I heard an interesting saying today. "It makes me want to chews nails and poot b.b.'s."

The only hope we have is that there are enough people who deal in reality to carry the majority.

On the side, did you hear the recent John Kerry speech? "We are going to stay the course... We need to get an exit stratigy to get out of Iraq... We will need to change Presidents Bush's mind." Of course Rush put this all together. "Stay the course, cut and run, and we'll have to get the President to change some of his plans." Sounds like a rational plan to me!!!!


Submitted by imdstuf on October 31, 2006 - 11:43 PM.

Okay, you tell me the history, since what we have read apparently differs. Tell me what the Enabling Act was. Tell me also exactly how did Hitler bring about a dictatorship?


Submitted by mgroothand on October 31, 2006 - 2:08 PM.

While we, here on this blog, are rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, something much more ominous is taking place in the Mid-East. The MSM has once again been successful to divert our attention from Iran to dirty politics here at home, just before an election. Ahmadinejad has again reasserted his drive to annihilate the Western world with nuclear bombs.

Soon our sitting President, like him or hate him, will have to make a decision that may be the most historical in the scope of world history. That decision goes far beyond any invasion of Iraq. Things could be better there and also a lot worse. The undeniable fact is that we're there and somehow we will find a way to leave honorably.

With only a few close advisors, George W. Bush will be in the unenviable position to declare war on Iran or allow their not-so-rhetoric "leaders" try to literally bury us.

Without demonstrable support of the American public it will be the most agonizing decision any president has ever made. His decision will be simple, yes to war or leave the consequences of no to war in the hands of his successor, assuming there will be one.


Submitted by FrozenOne on November 01, 2006 - 9:30 PM.

I see the point you are making, but I doubt imdstuf will understand. President Bush's successor will be Senator John McCain from Arizona. Isn't that a scary thought mydtwc and imdstuf? Another 4 years of the Republican party.


Submitted by imdstuf on November 02, 2006 - 6:49 PM.

The Republican Party will not back McCain. He is not far enough to the right for their liking. I think he might be an okay candidate, but I doubt the current powers that be would back him.


Submitted by FrozenOne on November 01, 2006 - 9:25 PM.

Okay imdstuf! You want to play your little hate games about how bad President Bush and his admin are. You think the Republicans are a bunch of idots who are not capable of running this country. Why don't you enlighten us all as to why your man Kerry just called all of our brave men and women in Iraq un-educated? Then he tries to say he was talking about Bush. As usual he engages his mouth before the brain engages. Seems like every time that clown opens his mouth he always says something that comes back to haunt your Democratic Party.
Perhaps you would all be better off if you stuck him in a crate and shipped him off to Korea. At least that way he would be close to his commie buddies. With a comment like that I will almost gurantee you that the Dems in the military will turn on their party. I even heard Dems at work say that you don't insult the ones paid to protect you. You probably would have had time to recover from this one if it weren't a week before the mid-terms. Kerry insulted a lot of people, so we'll have to see how it turns out. Good luck you'll need it.


Submitted by imdstuf on November 02, 2006 - 6:56 PM.

Guess what? Alot of people go into the army because they could not get college scholarships or get accepted into college. Sad, but true. Not all, but alot. Why shouldn't someone warn them that the military makes promises of wonderful things, but right now wants to use many of these young men and women as peices of meat in the Bush war machine. Not fighting those that attacked us on 9/11 though. Fighting in an unprovoked invasion of Iraq. Kerry himself was a soldier, so I doubt he meant insults to all soldiers, as that would include himself. He did however see what soldiers and the Vietnamese had to go through during the Vietnam war. When did Bush serve in Vietnam?

Kerry also said in defense of the troops who you say he insulted, "it is the president who owes U.S. soldiers an apology — for 'a Katrina foreign policy' that misled the country into war in Iraq, failed to adequately study and plan for the aftermath, has not properly equipped troops and has expanded the terrorist threat. 'I'm sick and tired of a bunch of despicable Republicans who will not debate real policy, who won't take responsibility for their own mistakes, standing up and trying to make other people the butt of those mistakes,' he said. 'It disgusts me that a bunch of these Republican hacks who've never worn the uniform of our country are willing to lie about those who did.'


Submitted by g_dog_blog on November 02, 2006 - 9:28 PM.

Well, then what do you do with all of the other disparaging comments Kerry has made about the military?

Why do you attempt to justify and explain away comments from liberals as misunderstanding but jump to condemn Republicans? You take things out of context and add what you want to make the story worse.

If you quack long enough you could be the next John Kerry.

Quack Quack Quack!!!


Submitted by holbrook28 on November 03, 2006 - 10:44 AM.

I think I am going to start calling you; Imdadumbstuf, because you are so uninformed it is scary. You believe everything that comes out of a Democrats mouth. John Kerry is an idiot. He has just reiterated what he has been saying for almost 30 years. He hates, like most Liberals, the military.

He only served in the military for political gain; why else would anyone carry a film camera to war with them? Have you every read what he won his Silver Star for? He rescued a drowning soldier while under fire. Well as a former Medic, we do that everyday, so where are all those soldier’s Silver Stars? Well he really knew three scratches and you are out. Then back to Washington to tell lies on his fellow service members. In my mind he is either a liar or a war criminal. Because every soldier knows that if you see things that he claimed he saw, being an officer, he had to report it to his higher ups. Instead he told Congress so he could run for political office. So imdstuf which one is he?

Oh yea tell me again what unit Clinton served with in Viet Nam? Liberals seem to forget about that one.

Obviously imdstuf, you have never served in the military, or the military of now. If you did you would know that the American soldier is the smartest soldier in the world. I know I did not join because I could not get into college; I graduated high school with a B average. I did not join because I did not have the money for school; my parents are pretty well off. I joined, like a lot of people I met in my career, because we wanted to serve our country! (Oh yea I graduated college with a 3.6 GPA…while working full time and I got my BS in under 4 years.)

What really pisses me off is who he said this statement to; rich, little, liberal, Left Coast, surfing, fruits. I know many, many service member receive their degrees while serving their country and working 60 hour work weeks. How many civilians do you know that do that? Not many. He also left out one thing, in the Army a soldier has to go to college to get promoted, did you know that? In many MOSs, a solider would have to have at least an Associates Degree just to make Sergeant. I wonder what percentage of the students he was talking to will actually get their degree…that might surprise him.

I think we, as Georgians, (Oh yea I moved back to Georgia a month ago.) should lobby our Democratic leaders. We need to remind them that the military is the largest employer in this state and many of us vote in the states in which we are stationed. They need to demand Kerry’s resignation, like they do when a Republican makes a so call misstatement.

I think I am going to start my own political action group. I think I will call it Veterans, Soldiers, Family and Friends for Change (VSFFC). Is anyone with me? So in other words John Kerry is an military hating, liberal, douche. I wish he would come to Georgia to campaign; I have some nice rotten eggs to throw at him. HOOAH!!!! Let me know what y’all think about my political action group…..


Submitted by mgroothand on November 02, 2006 - 9:02 AM.

A post Halloween thought....and to think that John Kerry almost became president....now that's scary!


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