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Talk, in everlasting words?

Posted by gimpel on September 18, 2006 - 5:25 AM

The words of a 14th century Byzantine emperor still cause death today?
Burned churches 615 years later?

Perhaps the Pope was right to quote the emperor:
“… not acting reasonably is contrary to God's nature.”

That sounds reasonable. But this sounds “evil and inhuman.”
During one rally gunmen in Gaza city opened fire at the Greek Orthodox church; no injuries or damage were reported. An unknown organization named “The sword of Islam claimed responsibility for the incident.
“We want to make it clear that if the pope does not appear on TV and apologize for his comments, we will blow up all of Gaza’s churches,” the group said in a statement.

Fasicm has been defined as belief one’s group is the victim, justifying any action without legal or moral limits, and the right of the chosen people to dominate others without legal or moral restraint.

This is from news reports: Muhammad Abdul Bari, general-secretary of the Muslim Council of Britain, said the pontiff needed to repudiate the emperor's views he quoted to restore relations between Muslims and the Roman Catholic Church.

The Pope’s speech was about the importance of reason and non-violence.
The Islamic fascists have certainly repudiated that.

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Submitted by imdstuf on September 18, 2006 - 9:01 AM.

Being intelligent though, the Pope should have forseen this coming. By using quotes that basically say, "your religion is spread through violence" is not a good way of making peaceful ties (even if that is how they spread their religion, it is insulting to say it to their face, just like telling a fat kid they are fat, you try to help them without saying "hey fat kid"). He should find the things not that we do not have in common such as their violence in the name of god, but rather our similarities such as our commandments. He should focus on these positives. I believe that is what John Paul would have done.


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Submitted by mgroothand on September 18, 2006 - 10:03 AM.

Come on imdstuff, there is no intelligent reasoning with these people. They riot for the sake of rioting. Shooting a nun in the back four times is one of their many replies. The only reply they understand is the reply of violence. While that may "begat" more violence, we're heading that way regardless. Do unto others before they do it unto you is becoming my motto when dealing with these Islamofascsists. Practicing PC and handling them with the proverbial kidgloves is not and has not worked. It is high time that we adopt a new tactic, a tactic that will work on their level. It is rumored that, while in the Phillipines, General Pershing wrapped the bodies of slain Islam fanatics in the cadavers of swine and allowed one of them to witness that and go back to tell the rest. No more paradise, no more problems... This they will understand and take heed.


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Submitted by imdstuf on September 18, 2006 - 12:16 PM.

On a side note someone said we should bomb them with bits of pork...sorry, bad joke, but hey good idea haha


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Submitted by imdstuf on September 18, 2006 - 12:20 PM.

I am just saying if it was the Pope's point to try to bring peaceful dialog as he claims, he should have seen that this is not how he should have went about it.


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Submitted by mgroothand on September 19, 2006 - 10:44 AM.

Yes, of course, he and all non-Muslims should walk on eggshells when making a remark about this scum and disregard, with olive branch in hand, any hostile remarks and deeds when that is done to us. "Father, they don't know what they do" (sic)


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Submitted by imdstuf on September 19, 2006 - 12:54 PM.

No not walk on egg shells, but not come out and say "you are ugly, wanna go out?" That is essentially what he did. Period. He could have called for peace without the quotes from that emperor. I will say in the Pope's defense though, he did apologize and eall Muslims should accept his apology.


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Submitted by 4Him on September 18, 2006 - 2:09 PM.

I find it almost comical: "Take back what you said about us being a violent religion or we'll bomb a bunch of innocent people and kill you", is basically what has happened here.


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Submitted by weekapaug05 on September 18, 2006 - 2:24 PM.

I don't think the Pope is too worried about it. It's a little known fact in Catholic Dogma that every Pope is a black belt Mui-Thai boxer and is impervious to bullets.


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Submitted by FrozenOne on September 24, 2006 - 6:55 PM.

I think the Pope should invite all Muslims to his mid-night mass on Christmas eve as a jester of good faith.


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Submitted by mgroothand on September 25, 2006 - 8:13 AM.

Yeah, I caught that. Was that intentional FrozenOne? jester or gesture. A jester is a clown. Be careful, you'll have all the Catholics in the world rioting in the streets.


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