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Israel must be defended

Posted by gimpel on July 21, 2006 - 6:38 AM

Because we might no be next, but we are on the list…

Why doesn’t Hezbollah simply release the kidnapped Israeli soldiers? That would end the aggressive defense.
Why did they escalate tensions and kidnap them in the first place? That started the aggressive defense.
They are truly evil.

But some people are so insulated from evil that they condemn Israel for defending itself.

The Catholic Church:
"As in the past, the Holy See also condemns both the terrorist attacks on the one side and the military reprisals on the other," he continued." He argued that Israel's right to self-defense "does not exempt it from respecting the norms of international law, especially as regards the protection of civilian populations."
"In particular," the statement continued, "the Holy See deplores the attack on Lebanon, a free and sovereign nation."

With all due respect, sir, the “right to self-defense” exempts Israel. Lebanon can’t be considered “free” or “sovereign” after voting Hezbollah into their government.
Perhaps Israel will free the civilian populations of Lebanon from Hezbollah, and allow them to be “free and sovereign.” But for now Israel must simply defend their own freedom.

The U.N.:
Jan Egeland, the U.N. humanitarian chief, called Israel's attacks a "violation of international law," adding, "You are supposed to do something to the armed group. You are not supposed to hurt the children of people who have nothing to do with this."

Israel attacks the origin of the rocket launches. If the Islamic terrorists attack from civilian sites, then the Islamic terrorists are the cause of hurt children.

And of course, Kofi Annan:
“I condemn without reservations the attack in southern Lebanon, and demand that Israeli troops be released immediately,” Annan said …

Fulton J. Sheen said, in equally dangerous times (before the Catholic Church deplored a nation’s right to self-defense):
“The atomic bomb in the hads of a Francis of Assisi would be less harmful than a pistol in the hand of a thug; what makes the bomb dangerous is not the energy it contains, but the man who uses it.”

Iran is behind the Lebanese aggression. They are the “thug” Sheen referred to.

Much more practical is what our President said:

“My message to Israel is that as a sovereign nation, you have
every right to defend yourself against terrorist activities. And, again, I
repeat, this started because Hezbollah decided to capture two Israeli
soldiers and fire hundreds of rockets into Israel from Southern Lebanon.
That's the cause of the crisis.”

If only there were a “battered nation” shelter Israel could go to for help.
Wait, we're it...

Why doesn’t Hezbollah release the kidnapped soldiers?
Probably because, given Islamic history, it can’t be done all in one piece.

Submitted by imdstuf on July 24, 2006 - 2:51 PM.

Are you clueless as to Israel-Arab tensions throughout their history? This is not new. Israel is just as bad as Hezbollah. There are no bad guys like in the movies. Both see themselves are being the rightful owners of the land. They will both never completely stop fighting. The problem is Lebanon is being destroyed, and we were hoping for the new deomcracy there to be an example to other countries in the region. Fat chance now.


Submitted by gimpel on July 25, 2006 - 6:28 AM.

well, I'm no Mid-East scholar, but I have read a few books...
and you are right, it is not new, but there are bad guys...
Israel fights to defend, the Arab countries fight to destroy...
Israel has no intentions of destroying their neighbors, Israel's neighbors would like nothing better than to destroy Israel.
Israel is the rightful owner of their land... they are a free and sovereign nation, constantly under attack...
and they always win.
I am not clueless as to the history of Israel. Perhaps you should research their history. It would be illuminating.


Submitted by imdstuf on July 25, 2006 - 9:27 AM.

Rightful owners because the West helped put them there and tell other countries which had been there "this is their land. We are telling you to let them have it." Yes, that makes it their land. Get a clue.


Submitted by gimpel on July 25, 2006 - 9:28 PM.

get a clue? Is that from "A Midsummer Night's Dream?"
Please.
There are free encyclopedias at the library, and all over the internet.
Clues abound.


Submitted by imdstuf on July 25, 2006 - 10:42 PM.

Good way to dance away from the issue. I bet if Jewish people were persecuted here, you and your christian friends would not care, but suddenly Israel is of our great concern. I guess it goes Christians > Jews >Muslims right Gimpel?


Submitted by gimpel on July 26, 2006 - 6:03 AM.

asking you to look up the real history is "to dance away from the issue?"
I support Israel because they are a free, sovereign nation.
The nations surrounding them support terrorism.
Terrorists are not compatible with freedom.
Freedom must be defended.

Freedom>(insert any different word here)

your prejudice is showing...


Submitted by imdstuf on July 26, 2006 - 10:54 AM.

My prejudice? How ironic that you say that when you are prejudice against those Arabic people. They can call people who invade their lands and enforce their will terrorists also. It is all a matter of perception. Maybe they see it as "freeing their land" the same you think our invasion of Iraq is "freeing their people" regardless of the fact they did not ask us to be freed.

What do you have to say about the innocent Lebanese people not involved in Hezbollah that have been killed, or the people from the UN that Israel killed?


Submitted by injun7 on July 26, 2006 - 10:29 PM.

If Mexico started lobbing rockets into south Texas,I would hope the U.S. would take the same action Israel has..


Submitted by imdstuf on July 28, 2006 - 9:14 AM.

Yes, but the US never tries occupying parts of Mexico or Canada. Did you know that Israel has tried occupying south Lebanon before? How about the Gaza Strip? Look up the history of these incidents Injun7. If We tried occupying parts of Mexico or Canada then they probably would hurl rockets at us.


Submitted by gimpel on July 29, 2006 - 7:10 AM.

please, look up the history of why and how Israel took over those lands... they took them after winning wars when they were attacked.
They have given back much more than they have kept.
Nations that lose wars usually lose land.
Israel just wants to live in peace.


Submitted by imdstuf on August 02, 2006 - 12:56 PM.

There are nations that want to live at peace and do live at peace. Again...you are going by the fictional idea of good guys/bad guys. All nations that go to war have some guilt. It always takes two to tango. Now, again, what about the bombings on innocent Israelies and the UN? Do not give me the "human shield" line Fox News wants to spout either. They did not just suddenly talk 60 citizens into gathering there hoping to make Isreal look bad in the media. Israel's intelligence failed, and on the UN issue they blatently ignored calls by the UN. With that said, I do want them to disarm Hezballah, but not at the extent of destroying the democracy and the infastructure of Lebanon.